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Phoebe Bridgers: Listen to Our Revealing, Hilarious Podcast Interview

One of the greatest singer-songwriters of her generation explains her writing secrets on the new Rolling Stone Music Now podcast

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Singer/songwriter Phoebe Bridgers, who made one of the best albums of the year with June’s Punisher, talks about her songwriting process, her influences, her many collaborations, her future, and much more in a deep and funny conversation with host Brian Hiatt on the new episode of Rolling Stone Music Now.

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Bridgers, who named her new record label Saddest Factory and has written some of the most sublime sad songs of recent years, touched on her self-aware relationship with sadness. “I think sadness is very funny,” she says. “Depression is funny to me because it’s the least singular thing on earth. It’s the human experience, unless you’re an idiot. And I think most people aren’t idiots and experience some form of sadness or depression. But when you are really depressed, you’re like, ‘Ah, God, why did you forsake me?’ It’s like, it’s everybody! So taking it a little bit less seriously has always been funny to me. I like comedians and musicians who do that, which is funny because Elliott [Smith] didn’t take it really seriously. He seems like a goofball in real life, which I appreciate.”

She also explained why she relates to Billie Eilish’s recently expressed pride in getting even “one whole song” written during the pandemic. “I probably wrote two whole songs,” Bridgers says. “And it’s been three times as much time [as usual].  I was talking shit about myself about how slow I am with writing. And then one of my friends was like, ‘No, you’re just deliberate.’ And I actually agree with that.”

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From Rolling Stone US